Aftermarket X-Pipe CEL Poll

rzm3 · 11-01-2009, 11:38 PM

Very interested in getting a boost of power... but I've heard different reviews/stories of CEL of different brands of x-pipe w/ sport cats.

In the spirit of collecting good data, please reply with the following info ONLY IF YOU OWN/OWNED an aftermarket x-pipe w/ sport cats on your E9x M3:

1. X-pipe make/brand and model
2. # miles with x-pipe
3. CEL or No CEL?
4. Exact code/cause? (if known)
5. ECU tune or not?

I will update the numbers daily in a figure. Thanks!

powertrip · 11-01-2009, 11:49 PM

1) Encore Innovation
2) ~3500 miles
3) No CEL's or other codes

Eugene-TAIWAN · 11-02-2009, 12:17 AM

Yep,

I had heard Encore is the choice for non CEL

Johnny Lin · 11-02-2009, 12:20 AM

Im getting my FabSpeed on Wen, we will see how it goes after I intall them on.

MrHarris · 11-02-2009, 02:19 AM

1. Riss Racing Xpipe w/ 200cell HFC
2. Had it for 2000 miles but threw a CEL in 40 miles
3. CEL
4. Exact code/cause? (if known) - dunno

J08M3 · 11-02-2009, 06:29 AM

1. Fabspeed X-Pipe and HFC's
2. 3-4,000 miles so far
3. No CEL

No tune....

ecksreturns · 11-02-2009, 08:06 AM

1 - FabSpeed X Pipe w/HFC's
2 - 1000 + kms
3 - No CEL

darkseid2k · 11-02-2009, 09:54 AM

1. AA Catless
2. 5,000 KM
3. CEL
4. States "Increased Emissions" on the display

I have to reflash my AA software to get rid of the CEL - been living with it for most of life of the x-pipe, no issues with it on.

DevJ · 11-02-2009, 10:52 AM

This is a good thread. Almost thought about making one myself. Thanks for the input guys.

Alias · 11-02-2009, 12:42 PM

1) Encore Innovation
2) 400 miles
3) No CEL's or other codes

Ca$hOnly · 11-02-2009, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecksreturns

1 - FabSpeed X Pipe w/HFC's
2 - 1000 + kms
3 - No CEL

Please also mention if you have a tune or not. No CEL with tune doesn't really count.

XunXunDCT · 11-02-2009, 01:10 PM

1- RPI GT-Race
2- 1.5k miles
3- CEL

Can't wait for my V.2

TOOMANYCARS · 11-02-2009, 07:37 PM

1)Fabspeed HFC w/ X-Pipe
2)2000 miles
3)CEL P0420, P0430

Increased emission, Powerchip stage 2 flash. It just happened to me today, and it was quite annoying to see the light. On the other hand, just my opinion and feel-of-butt, when the cel lids, the car's performance does reduce a bit, even if some people said they didn't feel anything.

Going to take care of the problem tomorrow with some modification and fabrication. )

xxe92xx · 11-02-2009, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOOMANYCARS

1)Fabspeed HFC w/ X-Pipe
2)2000 miles
3)CEL P0420, P0430

Increased emission, Powerchip stage 2 flash. It just happened to me today, and it was quite annoying to see the light. On the other hand, just my opinion and feel-of-butt, when the cel lids, the car's performance does reduce a bit, even if some people said they didn't feel anything.

Going to take care of the problem tomorrow with some modification and fabrication. )

you got a CEL after you got a tune? i havent heard of increased emissions reducing any power..

TOOMANYCARS · 11-02-2009, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxe92xx

you got a CEL after you got a tune? i havent heard of increased emissions reducing any power..

Weird isn't it? But it's not the end of the world, I'll have the problem cured tomorrow.

dillon733 · 11-02-2009, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxe92xx

you got a CEL after you got a tune? i havent heard of increased emissions reducing any power..

+1
Was the CEL before or after the tune?
How do you plan to get rid of the CEL?
Also do you have resignators?
im very interested i hearing this because i am considering this same setup, and you are the first person i heard that got a CEL with a fabspeed x pipe with high flow cats.

xxe92xx · 11-02-2009, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOOMANYCARS

Weird isn't it? But it's not the end of the world, I'll have the problem cured tomorrow.

loose 02 sensors? leaks? yea im interested in how you fix this, as im going catless and dont plan on getting a tune for awhile, so im lookin forward to seein the CEL everytime i drive the car

TOOMANYCARS · 11-02-2009, 08:05 PM

CEL didn't happen before the tune, as I was only able to put about 800 miles on the car, but I knew something wasn't right, because it took a long while, I mean 200 miles to get all readiness tests ready (I have an OBDII scanner @ home). On a normal car, 50-70 miles is all it takes on a stock car by the way. After the Powerchip group-buy reflash gathering @ NJ couple months ago, I put another 1200 miles or so on the car, and the light didn't come on until now. I know for a fact it's not leaks nor loose sensors, because I have a drive on lift, and I would spot the leaks or loose parts whenever I get to clean the car's bottom.

I will get some pictures tomorrow when the car is being worked on, and this shop I'm using is pretty good, they build pro-stock cars for various race teams.

GT3 Tim · 11-02-2009, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rldzhao

1. X-pipe make/brand and model
AA
2. # miles with x-pipe
1000
3. CEL or No CEL?
Yes
4. Exact code/cause? (if known)
cat efficiency
5. ECU tune or not?
Yes. Now no more CEL.

Beat regards,
GT3 Tim

rzm3 · 11-02-2009, 08:46 PM

updated with figure

slipstream · 11-02-2009, 09:28 PM

1. X-pipe make/brand and model: Akrapovic
2. # miles with x-pipe: 200
3. CEL or No CEL? CEL just came on this morning, but it was expected
4. Exact code/cause? (if known) Haven't checked, yet
5. ECU tune or not? Not yet; will probably tune after I get the aftermarket muffler unless Akra comes up with a fix before then

dillon733 · 11-03-2009, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOOMANYCARS

CEL didn't happen before the tune, as I was only able to put about 800 miles on the car, but I knew something wasn't right, because it took a long while, I mean 200 miles to get all readiness tests ready (I have an OBDII scanner @ home). On a normal car, 50-70 miles is all it takes on a stock car by the way. After the Powerchip group-buy reflash gathering @ NJ couple months ago, I put another 1200 miles or so on the car, and the light didn't come on until now. I know for a fact it's not leaks nor loose sensors, because I have a drive on lift, and I would spot the leaks or loose parts whenever I get to clean the car's bottom.

I will get some pictures tomorrow when the car is being worked on, and this shop I'm using is pretty good, they build pro-stock cars for various race teams.

Pardon my ignorance but what is a OBDII scanner? and what do you mean by readiness tests? Sorry i'm not that familiar with this kind of thing.

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ecksreturns Commander-in-Chief 24 Rep 142 Posts Drives: 08 E92 M3,2013 M5 and M6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: India iTrader: (0)	1 - FabSpeed X Pipe w/HFC's 2 - 1000 + kms 3 - No CEL __________________ 08 JB M3 \| 6sp\| S/C'd and lots of mods \| 2013 MCB M5 \| Executive and Driver Package \| 20" M rims \| B&O System \| Planning an exhaust setup 2013 Blk Sapphire M6 \| Executive and Driver Package \| 20" M rims \| B&O System \| Planning an exhaust setup
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TOOMANYCARS Second Lieutenant 2 Rep 221 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: V.O.W iTrader: (0)	1)Fabspeed HFC w/ X-Pipe 2)2000 miles 3)CEL P0420, P0430 Increased emission, Powerchip stage 2 flash. It just happened to me today, and it was quite annoying to see the light. On the other hand, just my opinion and feel-of-butt, when the cel lids, the car's performance does reduce a bit, even if some people said they didn't feel anything. Going to take care of the problem tomorrow with some modification and fabrication. ) __________________ Everything is work in progress.
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TOOMANYCARS Second Lieutenant 2 Rep 221 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: V.O.W iTrader: (0)	CEL didn't happen before the tune, as I was only able to put about 800 miles on the car, but I knew something wasn't right, because it took a long while, I mean 200 miles to get all readiness tests ready (I have an OBDII scanner @ home). On a normal car, 50-70 miles is all it takes on a stock car by the way. After the Powerchip group-buy reflash gathering @ NJ couple months ago, I put another 1200 miles or so on the car, and the light didn't come on until now. I know for a fact it's not leaks nor loose sensors, because I have a drive on lift, and I would spot the leaks or loose parts whenever I get to clean the car's bottom. I will get some pictures tomorrow when the car is being worked on, and this shop I'm using is pretty good, they build pro-stock cars for various race teams. __________________ Everything is work in progress.
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rzm3 Moderator 673 Rep 4,737 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (18)	updated with figure
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slipstream Second Lieutenant 21 Rep 261 Posts Drives: 2009 LeMans Blue E90 M3 [sold] Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sonoma County iTrader: (2)	1. X-pipe make/brand and model: Akrapovic 2. # miles with x-pipe: 200 3. CEL or No CEL? CEL just came on this morning, but it was expected 4. Exact code/cause? (if known) Haven't checked, yet 5. ECU tune or not? Not yet; will probably tune after I get the aftermarket muffler unless Akra comes up with a fix before then
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