Nav problems

Walkurie · 05-19-2011, 09:10 AM

My nav system has started misbehaving pretty bad. The position of the car on the map seems to be about 1/4 mile away from where it really is and the indicated direction (compass pointer in the upper left corner) shows 180 degrees opposite of the real heading.

Is this an upgrade issue? The car is a 2006 MR and has never been upgraded. I tried to reboot the DVD already by taking it out and putting it back in. Also disconnected and reconnected the battery. No luck.

Flying Scotsman · 05-19-2011, 10:01 AM

This is the price you pay for having a ///M, it's so bloody quick your car is in flux and entered another dimension hence in two places at the same time. ///M owners will confirm this,,,,,S.I. owners will dispute this!

Apart from what you have already tried i'm lost on this, maybe somebody will have a solution or a trip to the stealers will

-c- · 05-19-2011, 10:08 AM

HEY!!!

you forgot about us "I" owners!!!! what do we have to say about this.. lol!!!

thats OK i see how it is!

sorry feeling playfull today!

could be a glitch in the antenna, it was in out audi anyway.... an update could and would help thoug.

beta · 05-19-2011, 01:45 PM

I would start by updating to v32 software, which is the last software for our navs. Only 10 bucks or so. Search the forums for the part number, Ron has posted it before.

jrich4411 · 05-20-2011, 08:51 PM

You could also try disconnecting the satellite antenna and cleaning the connectors. You definitely want to upgrade the software as Beta said. Also, I invested in an updated set of DVD's. The newer set does make a difference - at least here in New Hampshire.

gatorfast · 05-21-2011, 06:28 AM

Could be the antenna. This past week my nav started mis behaving too - it would show me driving in the ocean or driving through some local roads but not where I actually was. Dealer replaced the nav antenna and now its fine.

bosstones · 05-21-2011, 08:39 AM

I'd start w/ the hardware first since it's cheap and easy to do; like gatorfast and jrich4411 suggested. Although I could be wrong, I highly doubt it's a SW issue if your nav was working fine all this time. I would suspect a HW issue first. If your FW all of a sudden became corrupted, you would probably have issues other than just have an corrdinate accuracy issue.

nmulax · 05-21-2011, 09:54 AM

Try the hardware. If that doesn't work, it's probably the nav antenna. Mine went out about two years ago.

XMetal · 05-21-2011, 10:04 AM

Where's the GPS antenna located? Is it something that's easily replaced?

Walkurie · 05-21-2011, 10:21 AM

Good question on the location of the GPS antenna. I thought the rear fender antenna served the GPS, so I removed it, cleaned it and put dilectric grease on the threads. No help to the GPS. If this is not the GPS antenna, I would like to know where it is.

jrich4411 · 05-21-2011, 07:00 PM

On the Roadsters it is just under the windshield glass top center above the rear view mirror. I'd assume the coupe is the same. On the roadster the plastic trim pops off by simply removing both sun visors. The antenna clips on to a mount right there and easily comes out. There is also a connector on the wire that simply unscrews. 10 minute job to pull it.

Walkurie · 05-26-2011, 08:13 AM

Very helpful, thanks. Looks like my next weekend project.

nmulax · 05-26-2011, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by XMetal

Where's the GPS antenna located? Is it something that's easily replaced?

I think on the coupe it involves pulling the headliner - not positive though.

mikeinsf · 05-26-2011, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -c-

HEY!!!

you forgot about us "I" owners!!!! what do we have to say about this.. lol!!!

3.0i GPS systems are only about 1/8 of a mile off.

ZStig · 05-26-2011, 03:06 PM

lol

Walkurie · 06-12-2011, 11:22 AM

Here is an update to this for anyone who needs a reference. Ordered the new software, was a bit surprised when I saw the package postmarked, 'Romania' but whatever. The firmware installed easily enough, and I selected the 'M' logo for the opening screen, which is cool.

It did not immediately solve my problem. Took the car out, showed it the satellites, etc. Still showed my position as being in the ocean, which is about 2 miles from my location. So I poked around some more. Removed the inside windshield surround covers and the visors, and disconnected and reconnected the co-axial cable a few times to make sure the connections were good. Put it back together, took it out for a drive and it re-positioned itself correctly.

I can't say much for the quality of the new map disks that came with the firmware. But at least the nav system is working again, and it beats a repair bill from the stealer now that the car is out of warranty.

XMetal · 06-12-2011, 11:46 AM

You will noticed that the DVD player appears to be a bit more "chatty" (working more) than normal with these "bootleg" DVD. At least that was happening with mine. I tried it for a couple of months and decides to put back the OEM disc fearing that the "bootleg" disc will wear out my DVD player prematurely. Just something to think about.

05-19-2011, 09:10 AM	#1
Walkurie Lieutenant 9 Rep 452 Posts Drives: 06 M Roadster / 99 Jaguar XK8 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Surf City, CA iTrader: (2)	Nav problems My nav system has started misbehaving pretty bad. The position of the car on the map seems to be about 1/4 mile away from where it really is and the indicated direction (compass pointer in the upper left corner) shows 180 degrees opposite of the real heading. Is this an upgrade issue? The car is a 2006 MR and has never been upgraded. I tried to reboot the DVD already by taking it out and putting it back in. Also disconnected and reconnected the battery. No luck. __________________ Vibra Technics engine mounts / Rogue trans mounts / Stoptech brakes / original owner
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Flying Scotsman Private First Class 3 Rep 146 Posts Drives: BMW Z4 2.5L Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Long Island N.Y. iTrader: (0)	This is the price you pay for having a ///M, it's so bloody quick your car is in flux and entered another dimension hence in two places at the same time. ///M owners will confirm this,,,,,S.I. owners will dispute this! Apart from what you have already tried i'm lost on this, maybe somebody will have a solution or a trip to the stealers will
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-c- Colonel 890 Rep 2,736 Posts Drives: bmw Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chicago iTrader: (5)	HEY!!! you forgot about us "I" owners!!!! what do we have to say about this.. lol!!! thats OK i see how it is! sorry feeling playfull today! could be a glitch in the antenna, it was in out audi anyway.... an update could and would help thoug.
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05-19-2011, 01:45 PM	#4
beta Lieutenant Colonel 80 Rep 1,663 Posts Drives: 2006 M Roadster Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: CA iTrader: (2)	I would start by updating to v32 software, which is the last software for our navs. Only 10 bucks or so. Search the forums for the part number, Ron has posted it before. __________________ modification journal
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05-20-2011, 08:51 PM	#5
jrich4411 Private First Class 5 Rep 165 Posts Drives: 2006 ///M black on black Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New Hampshire iTrader: (0)	You could also try disconnecting the satellite antenna and cleaning the connectors. You definitely want to upgrade the software as Beta said. Also, I invested in an updated set of DVD's. The newer set does make a difference - at least here in New Hampshire.
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05-21-2011, 06:28 AM	#6
gatorfast Major General 5011 Rep 6,866 Posts Drives: 718 Cayman Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SoFla iTrader: (4)	Could be the antenna. This past week my nav started mis behaving too - it would show me driving in the ocean or driving through some local roads but not where I actually was. Dealer replaced the nav antenna and now its fine.
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05-21-2011, 08:39 AM	#7
bosstones Lieutenant Colonel 1154 Rep 1,543 Posts Drives: o_0 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Suburbia iTrader: (0)	I'd start w/ the hardware first since it's cheap and easy to do; like gatorfast and jrich4411 suggested. Although I could be wrong, I highly doubt it's a SW issue if your nav was working fine all this time. I would suspect a HW issue first. If your FW all of a sudden became corrupted, you would probably have issues other than just have an corrdinate accuracy issue. __________________ - Jeff bosstones' flickr
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nmulax Brigadier General 379 Rep 4,320 Posts Drives: '07 Z4 M Coupe Join Date: May 2006 Location: Metro-Detroit iTrader: (5) Garage List 2007 Z4M Coupé [7.66]	Try the hardware. If that doesn't work, it's probably the nav antenna. Mine went out about two years ago. __________________
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XMetal Colonel 1144 Rep 2,871 Posts Drives: Anything Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 Z4M Coupe [10.00] 2018 Audi S3 [0.00] 2004 X5 [8.50]	Where's the GPS antenna located? Is it something that's easily replaced?
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Walkurie Lieutenant 9 Rep 452 Posts Drives: 06 M Roadster / 99 Jaguar XK8 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Surf City, CA iTrader: (2)	Good question on the location of the GPS antenna. I thought the rear fender antenna served the GPS, so I removed it, cleaned it and put dilectric grease on the threads. No help to the GPS. If this is not the GPS antenna, I would like to know where it is. __________________ Vibra Technics engine mounts / Rogue trans mounts / Stoptech brakes / original owner
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05-21-2011, 07:00 PM	#11
jrich4411 Private First Class 5 Rep 165 Posts Drives: 2006 ///M black on black Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New Hampshire iTrader: (0)	On the Roadsters it is just under the windshield glass top center above the rear view mirror. I'd assume the coupe is the same. On the roadster the plastic trim pops off by simply removing both sun visors. The antenna clips on to a mount right there and easily comes out. There is also a connector on the wire that simply unscrews. 10 minute job to pull it.
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Walkurie Lieutenant 9 Rep 452 Posts Drives: 06 M Roadster / 99 Jaguar XK8 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Surf City, CA iTrader: (2)	Very helpful, thanks. Looks like my next weekend project. __________________ Vibra Technics engine mounts / Rogue trans mounts / Stoptech brakes / original owner
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Walkurie Lieutenant 9 Rep 452 Posts Drives: 06 M Roadster / 99 Jaguar XK8 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Surf City, CA iTrader: (2)	Here is an update to this for anyone who needs a reference. Ordered the new software, was a bit surprised when I saw the package postmarked, 'Romania' but whatever. The firmware installed easily enough, and I selected the 'M' logo for the opening screen, which is cool. It did not immediately solve my problem. Took the car out, showed it the satellites, etc. Still showed my position as being in the ocean, which is about 2 miles from my location. So I poked around some more. Removed the inside windshield surround covers and the visors, and disconnected and reconnected the co-axial cable a few times to make sure the connections were good. Put it back together, took it out for a drive and it re-positioned itself correctly. I can't say much for the quality of the new map disks that came with the firmware. But at least the nav system is working again, and it beats a repair bill from the stealer now that the car is out of warranty. __________________ Vibra Technics engine mounts / Rogue trans mounts / Stoptech brakes / original owner
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XMetal Colonel 1144 Rep 2,871 Posts Drives: Anything Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 Z4M Coupe [10.00] 2018 Audi S3 [0.00] 2004 X5 [8.50]	You will noticed that the DVD player appears to be a bit more "chatty" (working more) than normal with these "bootleg" DVD. At least that was happening with mine. I tried it for a couple of months and decides to put back the OEM disc fearing that the "bootleg" disc will wear out my DVD player prematurely. Just something to think about.
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