Snow studs on tire good or bad?

Boosted_N54 · 12-10-2011, 11:56 PM

does any one recommend Snow studs fow our tires in light snow or deep
i was thinking of getting some for my winter tires Michelin PA3

http://www.tirerack.com/winter/tech/...jsp?techid=151

http://www.gripstuds.com/cartruck/cartruck.html

picture fromTireRack

ken1137 · 12-11-2011, 01:04 AM

Depends on where you live, if it is legal I would say YES. I have friends in OR that use them each Winter, but their concern is not deep snow, it is ice and light snow. I have had two accidents, albeit minor, over 20 yrs of driving in the Winter and both were due to 'black ice'. Nothing works better than studs on black ice.

One more note...also depends on the speed rating. I assume the hP & torque of the 135i might be too much for studs? Self control would be a must or else you will eject the studs.

Lester · 12-11-2011, 03:08 AM

I doubt if the studs would eject, but you might be able to create some sparks on dry pavement.

hyper1 · 12-11-2011, 01:54 PM

[QUOTE=ken1137;10956405]Depends on where you live, if it is legal I would say YES. I have friends in OR that use them each Winter, but their concern is not deep snow, it is ice and light snow. I have had two accidents, albeit minor, over 20 yrs of driving in the Winter and both were due to 'black ice'. Nothing works better than studs on black ice.

Studs were design for ice not for snow.
They are very good on ice............ do the 4 wheels.
Back home they have to be of the road by the end of Aprril.

ken1137 · 12-11-2011, 09:04 PM

[QUOTE=hyper1;10958401]

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Originally Posted by ken1137

Depends on where you live, if it is legal I would say YES. I have friends in OR that use them each Winter, but their concern is not deep snow, it is ice and light snow. I have had two accidents, albeit minor, over 20 yrs of driving in the Winter and both were due to 'black ice'. Nothing works better than studs on black ice.

Studs were design for ice not for snow.
They are very good on ice............ do the 4 wheels.
Back home they have to be of the road by the end of Aprril.

WTF? Is that not what I said. I can't help but

Boosted_N54 · 12-13-2011, 03:37 PM

I will oder the studs in afew weeks and take picturs

ptack · 12-13-2011, 07:53 PM

Not necessary unless you live in the great white north and have constant snow or ice on the road. I would imagine they would be noisy as hell at highway speed.

BrokenVert · 12-13-2011, 08:32 PM

Where do you live?

I never have had an issue with the lake effect stuff in the Syracuse region and in the mountains upstate (I got myself into a snowbank once but that was due to me being an idiot, not the capabilities of the car) on my dunlop D3s and previous my Pirelli 240s.

I never really see them as necessary unless youre an iceroad trucker or something. The car is really manageable in most snow and ice conditions so long as you know how to drive it. Just have a quick learning to drive montage in a parking lot and youll be fine without em.

hyper1 · 12-14-2011, 07:56 PM

[QUOTE=ken1137;10960415]

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyper1

WTF? Is that not what I said. I can't help but

Since my first language is not Shakespeare

Let me rephrase that.
Your comments are exactly right.
I was just trying support your comments, however the form i was using was probably wrong.

No WTF is required.

ken1137 · 12-14-2011, 09:48 PM

I apologize ...sorry dude

[QUOTE=hyper1;10981049]

Quote:

Originally Posted by ken1137

Since my first language is not Shakespeare

Let me rephrase that.
Your comments are exactly right.
I was just trying support your comments, however the form i was using was probably wrong.

No WTF is required.

ZIPNBYE · 12-15-2011, 06:58 AM

We've had studded Nokian Hakkapeliitta 5s on our car in winter since new (picked it up in late December 2006), running a square 205 setup.

Granted, in the Nokian's, there is a cushioning pad behind the stud to limit the contact pressure when on dry roads, but I really don't find them that noisy (as the BMW is so quiet to begin with), and now in their fourth winter, they're still holding up well.

How studs, installed after the fact, will hold up is anybody's guess...as I don't think that the can match the specific design features that come inherint in the Nokians, thus YMMV.

Tom K. · 12-15-2011, 11:12 AM

[quote=hyper1;10981049]

Quote:

Originally Posted by ken1137

Since my first language is not Shakespeare

Let me rephrase that.
Your comments are exactly right.
I was just trying support your comments, however the form i was using was probably wrong.

No WTF is required.

I've discovered that beginning the post with "Agreed", "Exactly", "+1", etc., generally helps to eliminate these misunderstandings.

Tom

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ken1137 Brigadier General 89 Rep 3,732 Posts Drives: BMW S1000XR Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Gilbert, AZ iTrader: (7) Garage List 2009 e90 335i [6.40]	Depends on where you live, if it is legal I would say YES. I have friends in OR that use them each Winter, but their concern is not deep snow, it is ice and light snow. I have had two accidents, albeit minor, over 20 yrs of driving in the Winter and both were due to 'black ice'. Nothing works better than studs on black ice. One more note...also depends on the speed rating. I assume the hP & torque of the 135i might be too much for studs? Self control would be a must or else you will eject the studs. __________________ BMWCCA member Last edited by ken1137; 12-11-2011 at 01:11 AM..
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hyper1 Lieutenant 31 Rep 575 Posts Drives: 2013, Z4/28 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: BC,Canada iTrader: (1)	studs [QUOTE=ken1137;10956405]Depends on where you live, if it is legal I would say YES. I have friends in OR that use them each Winter, but their concern is not deep snow, it is ice and light snow. I have had two accidents, albeit minor, over 20 yrs of driving in the Winter and both were due to 'black ice'. Nothing works better than studs on black ice. Studs were design for ice not for snow. They are very good on ice............ do the 4 wheels. Back home they have to be of the road by the end of Aprril.
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