135I + 3in of snow = not a good idea!

shah269 · 01-23-2012, 02:35 PM

I'm running full snow tires on this stick shift car and I'll be honest all of 3 inches of wet slushy snow on a slight incline equals death.
I couldn't believe it!
I'm running standard tire sizes but with full snow, sorry not 100% of the make or size of snow tires. But the simples little incline and 3in of wet snow and this girl was like a fat chick rocking sneakers in the middle of an ice rink. Not pretty!

Thank god I live in NJ but any suggestions just shy of going back to a FWD car for dealing with snow?

Focusedintntions · 01-23-2012, 02:58 PM

were you driving with the dsc turn on or off? I turn it completely off as letting the rear wheels spin some is necessary and with it on it'll just kill all the power to the car.

alvitdk · 01-23-2012, 03:09 PM

+1

Tried it Saturday too, no chance without turning DCS off!

shemeld_135 · 01-23-2012, 03:11 PM

dunlop sport 3d's own the snow!

5teN · 01-23-2012, 03:14 PM

I was in Whistler, BC yesterday and couldn't make it up a hill to my friends cabin. I have new LM-60's and there was about 3" of snow. DSC turned off.

I wonder what it would have been like with a torsen differential...

IZAGLO · 01-23-2012, 03:38 PM

NJ as well.....135i in snow "anywhere" IS RISKY at best even with snows. I barely could not make it up my plowed driveway to go to DMV for inspection..It snowed at the BMW dealer at the closing, 90 minutes from home with RFT's A welcome indeed.... !! at that time I made the decision to keep my AWD Honda CRV as my beater and honestly in 160,000 miles it has been almost perfect except for funky brake rotors..the 1 stay's tucked in with Mr Battery Tender keeping her ready for a nice day!!

Lubo · 01-23-2012, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by IZAGLO

NJ as well.....135i in snow "anywhere" IS RISKY at best even with snows. I barely could not make it up my plowed driveway to go to DMV for inspection..It snowed at the BMW dealer at the closing, 90 minutes from home with RFT's A welcome indeed.... !! at that time I made the decision to keep my AWD Honda CRV as my beater and honestly in 160,000 miles it has been almost perfect except for funky brake rotors..the 1 stay's tucked in with Mr Battery Tender keeping her ready for a nice day!!

I am not sure what all of you guys are talking about. I had my 1er equipped with 225s Blizzaks WS60 and in 3 winters I didn't have any problems. I was even driving around on the second day of snowmagedon we had last year in Tri-State area. In the light and fluffy snow I didn't have problems going over drifts bigger that 12" and even driving around 6" of wet and heavy snow wasn't much of a problem. 135 with snow tires proved to be much better winter car than my old GTI granted I never used snows on that car.

pixelblue · 01-23-2012, 04:13 PM

no problems here on DSW's driving through 6" snow. only going up an incline things start to get messy but still made it up top

ken1137 · 01-23-2012, 04:58 PM

Sorry to hear you had problems. We had probably the same system and the roads were plowed after rush-hour. So, 3" of snow in the roads and I did not have any problems with my blizzaks. To be honest...this is the first RWD car I have owned since college and I believe with snow tires it is better than FWD and all-weather tires in the same conditions. Besides...the 135 with snows is a blast to drive

BFD99 · 01-23-2012, 06:08 PM

Still looking forward for it to snow so i can test out my DWS!

ZIPNBYE · 01-23-2012, 09:45 PM

Heavy wet snow is more like slippery liquid ice...most vehicles will have issues with it, no matter how well prepared.

That said, I haven't gotten my 135i stuck in four winters on its Nokian Halkapeliitta winter tires (the Finnish know winter!).

JDUni1 · 01-23-2012, 10:17 PM

+1 I was actually amazed at how good these cars actually do in the snow (also running DWS).

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Originally Posted by pixelblue

no problems here on DSW's driving through 6" snow. only going up an incline things start to get messy but still made it up top

TheStig · 01-23-2012, 10:57 PM

My Car "Mods in the sig" Was fantastic in the snow. MUST! Turn DTC Completely off tho.

ChuckD05 · 01-24-2012, 12:25 AM

i had no issues at all this last snow storm in the NE...

I have Dunlop Winter Sport 3d's

Absolutely driveable with or without DCT or DSC on... I had a blast.. i even let my fiance's 18 year old younger brother drive my car so he could get experience in a RWD car in snow properly equipped with snow tires.. I would never of done that if I felt it was dangerous in any way!

shah269 · 01-24-2012, 11:02 AM

I was not happy at all! Rear end all over the place at under 30mph and a little hill....wooh nothing! Spin tire spin tire spin tire spin tire!
I may try if we have snow with the computer turned off.

BrokenVert · 01-24-2012, 11:12 AM

135 bad in the snow you say? My car is calling you a liar

I think its your foot more than the car, I live in Syracuse man and you have nothing on our unplowed snowy hills. Just turn the traction control fully off.

AW128i · 01-24-2012, 01:29 PM

Hmm, rocking all-season RFTs on my 128i and haven't gotten stuck once, not even last winter when we had back-to-back-to-back storms that dropped tons of snow on us. Easy on the gas, DTC on for questionable traction situations, and you should be good. With dedicated snow tires, I can't imagine that these cars would perform worse??

ErvGotti · 01-24-2012, 01:46 PM

No problems here with DWS all season tire's in up to 6 inches of snow, I usually leave the DTC on the half setting and get enough slippage for traction on that setting without the DME killing power/applying brakes. Once I get going I'll turn it back on.

I'll only turn it completly off for the really steep hills which are few and far between where I live though we do have some inclines and declines getting to where I live.

spellbmw · 01-24-2012, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by shemeld_135

dunlop sport 3d's own the snow!

+1 -- Drove through 6-8" of new snow in Oregon's Cascades (Santiam Pass) without any problem. Dunlop WinterSport 3Ds!!!

shah269 · 02-03-2012, 01:42 PM

Next year I'm going DSW or Hackas that's for sure!

ptack · 02-03-2012, 02:07 PM

Ran the Dunlops for 3 years and they NEVER failed. They were way better than my wife's SUV which has all seasons. Unfortunately, you could not get a set of Dunlop Wintersport 3Ds this fall so I had to replace with Michelin Alpins. So far, no snow to speak, but I have no fear of snow in this car.

dt373621 · 02-05-2012, 08:18 PM

gotta get blizzaks - I'm running LM 60 RF's... frickin' amazing tires .. I went playing in some nearby developments that weren't yet plowed when we finally got a sprinkle of about 4 inches weeks ago .. so much fun

01-23-2012, 02:35 PM	#1
shah269 Major 316 Rep 1,035 Posts Drives: 2009 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	135I + 3in of snow = not a good idea! I'm running full snow tires on this stick shift car and I'll be honest all of 3 inches of wet slushy snow on a slight incline equals death. I couldn't believe it! I'm running standard tire sizes but with full snow, sorry not 100% of the make or size of snow tires. But the simples little incline and 3in of wet snow and this girl was like a fat chick rocking sneakers in the middle of an ice rink. Not pretty! Thank god I live in NJ but any suggestions just shy of going back to a FWD car for dealing with snow?
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Focusedintntions Colonel 105 Rep 2,696 Posts Drives: 2011 135i M-Sport :D Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NoVA iTrader: (1)	were you driving with the dsc turn on or off? I turn it completely off as letting the rear wheels spin some is necessary and with it on it'll just kill all the power to the car. __________________ Faster, faster, faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death… – Hunter Thompson
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5teN Private 3 Rep 56 Posts Drives: 2008 135i Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Vancouver iTrader: (0) Garage List 1972 Datsun 510 (sold) [0.00] 2002 Subaru WRX (sold) [0.00] 2008 BMW 135i [0.00]	I was in Whistler, BC yesterday and couldn't make it up a hill to my friends cabin. I have new LM-60's and there was about 3" of snow. DSC turned off. I wonder what it would have been like with a torsen differential...
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IZAGLO Mbira 30 Rep 1,011 Posts Drives: Sedonna Red 09 135i SOLD Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Garage cleaning Brake Dust iTrader: (3)	NJ as well.....135i in snow "anywhere" IS RISKY at best even with snows. I barely could not make it up my plowed driveway to go to DMV for inspection..It snowed at the BMW dealer at the closing, 90 minutes from home with RFT's A welcome indeed.... !! at that time I made the decision to keep my AWD Honda CRV as my beater and honestly in 160,000 miles it has been almost perfect except for funky brake rotors..the 1 stay's tucked in with Mr Battery Tender keeping her ready for a nice day!!
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pixelblue Colonel 140 Rep 2,234 Posts Drives: the silver bullet Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: northern virginia iTrader: (2) Garage List 2010 135i [8.90]	no problems here on DSW's driving through 6" snow. only going up an incline things start to get messy but still made it up top __________________ "I would quote everything pixelblue said, but you've already read it. Take it from someone who's put the 1 through its paces"
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ken1137 Brigadier General 89 Rep 3,732 Posts Drives: BMW S1000XR Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Gilbert, AZ iTrader: (7) Garage List 2009 e90 335i [6.40]	Sorry to hear you had problems. We had probably the same system and the roads were plowed after rush-hour. So, 3" of snow in the roads and I did not have any problems with my blizzaks. To be honest...this is the first RWD car I have owned since college and I believe with snow tires it is better than FWD and all-weather tires in the same conditions. Besides...the 135 with snows is a blast to drive __________________ BMWCCA member
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BFD99 The Stig! 54 Rep 889 Posts Drives: 2008 135i 6MT Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Tulsa, Ok iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 BMW 135i [10.00]	Still looking forward for it to snow so i can test out my DWS! __________________ 2008 135i - FBO + JB4 15ohm + Water Meth
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ZIPNBYE Let's save military ranks for those who earn it! 45 Rep 1,161 Posts Drives: ...on the Ragged Edge Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada iTrader: (6) Garage List 2013 BMW e92 M3 Cou ... [7.50] 2013 BMW e84 X1 xDr ... [7.00]	Heavy wet snow is more like slippery liquid ice...most vehicles will have issues with it, no matter how well prepared. That said, I haven't gotten my 135i stuck in four winters on its Nokian Halkapeliitta winter tires (the Finnish know winter!). __________________ Richard 2013 BMW M3 Individual -- Fire Orange (sold) 2013 BMW X1 xDrive35i M-Sport -- Valencia Orange (sold) 2011 BMW 1-series M Coupe (#205/220) -- Valencia Orange (sold) 2009 BMW 135i M-Sport Coupe -- Space Grey (sold)
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TheStig Captain 52 Rep 794 Posts Drives: Alot of everything. Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Potomac MD iTrader: (4)	My Car "Mods in the sig" Was fantastic in the snow. MUST! Turn DTC Completely off tho. __________________ Gone But Not forgotten: -07 Shelby GT500 W/ Full Bolt on E85 -08 335i 6MT W/ Full Bolt On E85/Meth -08 M3 DCT W/ Full Exhaust / Tune -13 B8 Audi S4 APR Stage 2+
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ChuckD05 NeedsMoarBoost 42 Rep 527 Posts Drives: 08 135i / 06 e90 325xi Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NY iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 335i Mtech [10.00] 2006 BMW 325xi e90 [10.00] 2008 BMW 135i M-Sport [7.80]	i had no issues at all this last snow storm in the NE... I have Dunlop Winter Sport 3d's Absolutely driveable with or without DCT or DSC on... I had a blast.. i even let my fiance's 18 year old younger brother drive my car so he could get experience in a RWD car in snow properly equipped with snow tires.. I would never of done that if I felt it was dangerous in any way! __________________ 08 135i 6m - 12.1@120.2 2.0 60ft - JB4/Meth - SOLD 09 335i e92 Mtech - RB FBO
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shah269 Major 316 Rep 1,035 Posts Drives: 2009 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	I was not happy at all! Rear end all over the place at under 30mph and a little hill....wooh nothing! Spin tire spin tire spin tire spin tire! I may try if we have snow with the computer turned off.
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BrokenVert Resident Kerbalnaut 477 Rep 10,703 Posts Drives: Topless Brute/Hybrid Boogaloo Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fahrvergnügen/NY iTrader: (0)	135 bad in the snow you say? My car is calling you a liar I think its your foot more than the car, I live in Syracuse man and you have nothing on our unplowed snowy hills. Just turn the traction control fully off. __________________
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AW128i Major 44 Rep 1,003 Posts Drives: E82 N51 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Southeastern, PA iTrader: (1)	Hmm, rocking all-season RFTs on my 128i and haven't gotten stuck once, not even last winter when we had back-to-back-to-back storms that dropped tons of snow on us. Easy on the gas, DTC on for questionable traction situations, and you should be good. With dedicated snow tires, I can't imagine that these cars would perform worse?? __________________ "The Camaro's V6 makes so much horsepower because them horses are trying as hard as they can to run the fuck away from that ugly ass car." -Golden3ye
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ErvGotti Major 124 Rep 1,362 Posts Drives: 2008 135i 6MT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Aviano iTrader: (5) Garage List 2008 135i [6.00]	No problems here with DWS all season tire's in up to 6 inches of snow, I usually leave the DTC on the half setting and get enough slippage for traction on that setting without the DME killing power/applying brakes. Once I get going I'll turn it back on. I'll only turn it completly off for the really steep hills which are few and far between where I live though we do have some inclines and declines getting to where I live.
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shah269 Major 316 Rep 1,035 Posts Drives: 2009 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	Next year I'm going DSW or Hackas that's for sure!
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ptack Brigadier General 269 Rep 4,470 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: May 2008 Location: NJ iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 135i [6.50]	Ran the Dunlops for 3 years and they NEVER failed. They were way better than my wife's SUV which has all seasons. Unfortunately, you could not get a set of Dunlop Wintersport 3Ds this fall so I had to replace with Michelin Alpins. So far, no snow to speak, but I have no fear of snow in this car. __________________ 135i, SGM, Coral, Sport Package, Auto, Premium Hifi, USB/ipod, Apex EC-7s, PPK Stage II
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dt373621 Loaded 1er 0 Rep 97 Posts Drives: '12 135i DSB 6spd Msprt Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Eastern PA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2012 135i M Sport [8.50] 1990 535i [9.00]	gotta get blizzaks - I'm running LM 60 RF's... frickin' amazing tires .. I went playing in some nearby developments that weren't yet plowed when we finally got a sprinkle of about 4 inches weeks ago .. so much fun
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