I know the oil filter should catch this but..... take a look

JeffchaPz · 09-23-2013, 10:07 PM

What's up peopleZ.

Ok - I went under the car yesterday to change the oil and look what I found. Not sure if this is dirt mixed with oil, burnt gunk and oil or what. Good thing I change my oil every 7K miles.

Whatever it is, it sat on the magnet so it must have some soar of metal parts...... thoughts?

Geauxkart · 09-24-2013, 06:00 AM

Send a sample to blackstone.

ANUSTART · 09-24-2013, 09:58 AM

I try to change mine every 3-4k. I am not at all comfortable with the 7k schedule. But I'm a little old too.

chickdr · 09-24-2013, 10:04 AM

How many miles on your car? I don't like the look of that. I wonder how your rod bearings look?

the dink · 09-24-2013, 06:50 PM

That would not bother me any, We have a fleet of chevys and fords with magnetic drain plugs and they look like that or worse every oil change. Seen them since new and some have over 100,000 miles now with NO problems. If an engine never shed some small amount of metal that would mean they should never wear out and we know that's not true. By the way only a small amount of oil goes thru the filter while it is running most of the oil bypasses at the oil pump regulator.

JeffchaPz · 09-24-2013, 10:46 PM

The car only has 42k miles and I don't track the car. I wonder if replacing the oil filter every 3.5K miles will help.

I didn't think of saving a small amount of oil for a test.... I'll def... do it next time.

StickMon · 09-24-2013, 11:10 PM

Get the free sample collection kit from Blackstone.

I just put an ECS magnetic plug in mine at the last change.
Will be pulling it in about a month. Be interesting to see what it's growing.
I'll post an observation in this thread.

David70 · 09-25-2013, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffchaPz

The car only has 42k miles and I don't track the car. I wonder if replacing the oil filter every 3.5K miles will help.

I didn't think of saving a small amount of oil for a test.... I'll def... do it next time.

I don't think changing the oil filter more often would matter unless the filter is being completely clogged and I can't see this happening with normal changes. When you remove the filter what did it look like? I am guessing pretty normal.

Caddyshk · 09-25-2013, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANUSTART

I try to change mine every 3-4k. I am not at all comfortable with the 7k schedule. But I'm a little old too.

7K schedule

JeffchaPz · 09-28-2013, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David70

I don't think changing the oil filter more often would matter unless the filter is being completely clogged and I can't see this happening with normal changes. When you remove the filter what did it look like? I am guessing pretty normal.

The oil filter looked normal after being used for 7k miles....

So If I didn't have that magnet, I guess that junk will be running through the engine - which probably causes other parts to wear out faster

no?

3002 tii · 09-28-2013, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickMon

Get the free sample collection kit from Blackstone.

I just put an ECS magnetic plug in mine at the last change.
Will be pulling it in about a month. Be interesting to see what it's growing.
I'll post an observation in this thread.

Good luck with the ECS plug, I give it 2 oil changes before it breaks.

inTgr8r · 09-28-2013, 07:41 PM

Are they known to be problematic?

3002 tii · 09-28-2013, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

Are they known to be problematic?

ECS magnetic plug, heck yea. Do a quick google search.

ECS is great for or parts but I'll never buy any of their in-house products or kits.

StickMon · 09-29-2013, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3002 Tii

... Do a quick google search.

Zoiks!!
Magnet falls out !!

inTgr8r · 09-29-2013, 06:58 AM

& stripped pan threads.

XMetal · 09-29-2013, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffchaPz

The oil filter looked normal after being used for 7k miles....

So If I didn't have that magnet, I guess that junk will be running through the engine - which probably causes other parts to wear out faster

no?

No...if you didn't have the magnet, all that gunk would have gotten filtered out by the filter. Since the magnet is at the bottom of the pan, it sticks to the magnet first before having a chance to get even get to the filter.

JeffchaPz · 09-29-2013, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3002 Tii

Good luck with the ECS plug, I give it 2 oil changes before it breaks.

This is the 3rd time I'm using it, I'll probably go replace next oil change... so far no problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by XMetal

No...if you didn't have the magnet, all that gunk would have gotten filtered out by the filter. Since the magnet is at the bottom of the pan, it sticks to the magnet first before having a chance to get even get to the filter.

Thanks Xmetal.... I'll get the oil tested next time and we'll see what happens after that.

3002 tii · 10-03-2013, 12:40 PM

FWIW just remembered I bought mine from here

http://www.drainplugmagnets.com/bmw.php

StickMon · 10-25-2013, 04:29 PM

Just changed my oil.
I also had some "fur" on the magnet, but about 1/2 as much as the OP.
93k miles on the car. 5800 since last oil change and first use of magnetic plug.
Also snagged an oil sample for my first Blackstone.

RobMCoupe · 10-25-2013, 05:54 PM

I had magnetic drain plug for last two oil changed. The first changed I had more particles on the plug but the second time there is a thin layer. I change my oil every 6 months or 7500 which ever comes first. The average mileage is 5500 to 6500.

StickMon · 10-29-2013, 10:49 PM

First Blackstone report just came in. Things are looking good!
I can stop having rod bearing nightmares now.
The fuel in the oil and the 0.5L make-up oil may be related.
I should probably do a compression check.

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XMetal · 10-30-2013, 01:04 AM

That's very good news for a change

Questions on the Blackstone report:
1. Is "Universal Averages" the averages of all cars or all S54 engines only?
2. I'm assuming that "Unit/Location Averages" is the cummulative average for this motor only?

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JeffchaPz Second Lieutenant 17 Rep 251 Posts Drives: 2007 Z4M Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (0)	The car only has 42k miles and I don't track the car. I wonder if replacing the oil filter every 3.5K miles will help. I didn't think of saving a small amount of oil for a test.... I'll def... do it next time.
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StickMon My other car is on Mars 636 Rep 3,124 Posts Drives: 2006 MR Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Lo-Cal iTrader: (1)	Just changed my oil. I also had some "fur" on the magnet, but about 1/2 as much as the OP. 93k miles on the car. 5800 since last oil change and first use of magnetic plug. Also snagged an oil sample for my first Blackstone. __________________ Warning: May contain traces of nuts.
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StickMon My other car is on Mars 636 Rep 3,124 Posts Drives: 2006 MR Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Lo-Cal iTrader: (1)	First Blackstone report just came in. Things are looking good! I can stop having rod bearing nightmares now. The fuel in the oil and the 0.5L make-up oil may be related. I should probably do a compression check. __________________ Warning: May contain traces of nuts. Last edited by StickMon; 10-29-2013 at 11:11 PM..
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